Interview Mastery
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Inside this module
- ✓Warm welcome to the Interview Mastery course!
- ✓Your favorite interviews: what are you learning about how they do it?
- ✓What does your ideal audience believe differently than others?
- ✓Context for the work you love to do with clients...
- ✓Initial work of bringing together your interview message...
- ✓What questions might an ideal host ask you?
- ✓What's a good offer to mention in an interview?
- ✓Clarity vs Promoted Interviews.
- ✓How to do a Clarity Interview.
What people said
“Omigosh - I've always thought, I must be new and original so I don't bore people!! This makes so much more sense. Now to polish up my 'greatest hits!'”
“The “Clarity Interview” concept helps me clarify what I was doing in many of my first guest interviews… I did many of these without realizing they could have this name.”
“I noticed how George's tips helped me, with a particular way of questioning, having my listeners in view all the time, keeping things interesting and also adding some insights here and there myself. … It felt organic, and I was happy with my first interview.”
“George's class is engaging and fun -- he knows how to keep your attention and provides really interesting information!”
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Module 1’s Lessons:
- Warm welcome to the Interview Mastery course!2 min
- Your favorite interviews: what are you learning about how they do it?2 min
- What does your ideal audience believe differently than others?6 min
- Context for the work you love to do with clients...3 min
- Initial work of bringing together your interview message...6 min
- What questions might an ideal host ask you?3 min
- What's a good offer to mention in an interview?5 min
- Clarity vs Promoted Interviews3 min
- How to do a Clarity Interview4 min
- Make it easy to schedule with you...4 min
- Should you post your Clarity interviews?1 min
Warm welcome to the Interview Mastery course!
Video · 2 min
Welcome fellow interviewers/ees!
In this course you'll get my best guidance for how to be on the path of mastering your skills as a host and a guest.
However, there's an abundance of wisdom here -- your own observations as you watch interviews and as you take part in this.
I consider this course to be a community learning experience -- pooling together our observations about what makes for great interviewing (and what things to avoid.)
So I hope you'll comment generously in the Student Discussion doc to share what you've seen works / doesn't work. Let's learn together 🤗
Key points from the video
- George frames his authority modestly: about 14 years of doing interviews as host and guest — podcasts, YouTube channels, Instagram Lives, webinars, plain Zoom calls with client groups — and he is definitely not a perfect expert, still improving a little each year.
- Names the format explicitly as a community learning experience: he sees himself as merely a facilitator pooling collective observations lesson to lesson. (Lesson comments are closed; use the Student Discussion doc.)
George's answers to students' questions (click to show)
A student shared: "Good morning! Thank you for the welcoming! One question arises, while listening - and I am looking forward to exploring answers :-) How to react how to deal with an interview situation when I realise my host does not understand me. I have had the situation in an interview documentary about my work, where it was very difficult to get into the flow of speaking. I have made it clear beforehand, what …"
George replied: thanks for your question! Let me know if this segment is helpful:
the lesson "Reminder: It's less a conversation, more a presentation with Q&A by the Audience through the Host." in Interview Mastery
Your favorite interviews: what are you learning about how they do it?
Video · 2 min
From now on, as you listen to / watch any interviews, especially from your favorite hosts or guests, ask yourself:
- What is the host doing well, that I can learn from?
- What is the guest doing that is effective?
- What are they not doing as effectively, that I can learn from?
I welcome you to share your learnings in the Student Discussion doc. Let's all become more effective hosts & guests, with our collective input!
Key points from the video
- Introduces the recurring practice of watching interviews with a "meta learner" hat on — not just absorbing the topic, but studying the craft: what's the host doing well, what's the guest doing well, what's not landing.
- Distinguishes learning from what's engaging (pulled you in, made you want to learn more / visit their site) vs. what's boring.
- Etiquette note: if critiquing an interview negatively, keep the host's and guest's identities private; positive examples can be named freely.
George's answers to students' questions (click to show)
George added: I always enjoy listening to Seth Godin. Here's a recent interview with him:
Purple Cow, How to Be Remarkable, and the Secrets of Marketing in 2023
As a guest, he does a good job of saying things to help the audience shift their perspective... yet always setting context for his offers -- to go check out his blog and one or more specific books of his. I notice that he never gives much "how to" in his interviews, but remains inspirational in his talking points, saying much of the same overall points (that the audience enjoys), but in slightly different ways each time.
Seth uses vivid metaphors and stories to help audience "see" in their mind's eye.
Gives unconventional answers, or when it's conventional, it's grounded in Seth's own experience.
At the end of the interview, Seth praises the host right away... I've noticed him doing this on most/all his interviews.
What the host does well:
- After some things Seth says, host says "That's powerful..." (prompting the listener to pay attention, maybe rewind)
- You can tell that the Host has heard at least a recent interview of Seth.
- Host addressed a hot topic in the news related to guest's work -- Ai and marketing.
What does your ideal audience believe differently than others?
Video · 6 min
Key points from the video
- Frames the exercise around a specific psychological hook: prospects respond far more to specificity than to a promise to help everyone with everything, unless deep trust/familiarity is already built through prior content.
- Core emotional mechanism being taught: when a guest names the audience's out-of-place feeling and validates a belief or struggle that most people don't understand, the listener feels they have found their person — their healer, coach, mentor, or at minimum someone worth following.
- Explicit permission to go slowly: no pressure to answer perfectly, only to begin — answers accumulate over the following weeks and lessons build on each other.
The full lesson text (click to show)
Let’s begin creating your ideal interview message that will also support your business – we’ll do more deeper work on this later in the course. For now, get started with making some notes.
Consider your ideal client…
- What do they understand or believe differently from most people?
1. In what ways do they feel out of place in society? What do they believe differently?
2. How can you relate – what aspect of your story supports this feeling / perspective?
3. What do they need to be validated in believing / thinking? How can you validate it based on your own experience or research?
- In what ways do they struggle more than most people?
1. How do they feel misunderstood?
2. What part of your experience supports that feeling too?
- What kind of effort are they making (goal, improvements) that most people aren’t, or maybe don’t understand?
1. How can you speak to this from your own experience?
Go ahead and comment in the Student Discussion doc with any notes you'd like to share!
Then if you'd like, reply to 2 others' comments if you resonate with what they wrote (if it describes you or someone you know.)
George's answers to students' questions (click to show)
A student shared: "oops. Erased my comment: Sorry. But I have to reference Between Two Ferns (Netflix): [link removed] My husband doesn't get it, but I laugh out loud. Maybe we can learn some glaring 'what not to dos,' by watching them exaggerated for humor's sake. Don't ask things that are so personal they're inappropriate. Do research the guest's name pronunciation and any works you're going to reference. Don't …"
George replied: oh I love between two ferns too 😂
Context for the work you love to do with clients...
Video · 3 min
Considering the work you love to do with clients...
- What would someone need to understand in order to be a perfect client for you?
- What myths would they hold, about your field, prior to working with you?
- What terms would be helpful for them to understand?
- What would they need to believe differently, to be able to do the deepest work with you?
Go ahead and comment in the Student Discussion doc with any notes you'd like to share!
Then if you'd like, reply to 2 others' comments if you resonate with what they wrote (if it describes you or someone you know.)
Key points from the video
- Key metaphor: an ideal client arrives as a diamond in the rough polished through the work — the brainstorm here targets the myths/misunderstandings/missing skills clients hold before they understand your field.
- Reinforces this as ongoing brainstorming, not a one-time worksheet: this is the beginning, and more answers will come over the following days.
Initial work of bringing together your interview message...
Video · 6 min
Considering all the above points, bring them together into a sequential message, with these guidelines:
- The points should give helpful context for your work with clients / preparing them to work better with you.
- Even if someone doesn’t become your client, the message should be inspirational and/or helpful.
- Add in vivid examples and stories where possible.
- Drop hints of your deep experience in this area, e.g. how many years studying this, your teachers / schools, your unique experiences that taught you something important, and any vivid stories.
Go ahead and comment in the Student Discussion doc with any notes you'd like to share!
Key points from the video
- Explicit non-goal stated directly: the interview message is NOT a long sales pitch. Even sales-adjacent points should be reframed so the listener leaves feeling whole, not incomplete or pressured to buy.
- Desired outcome for every listener, not just buyers: they feel the interview was worth their time — ideally worth enough to want to share it with friends/colleagues.
- Content still educates and builds shared vocabulary, so whoever does become a client later arrives further along.
- Explicit instruction to hint at credibility — years of experience (only if the number helps; skip it if not), teachers/schools studied under, vivid embodied stories — reasoning: strangers need credibility indicators to extend trust. Balance: don't spend the whole interview boosting yourself, but don't be shy either.
What questions might an ideal host ask you?
Video · 3 min
Extra video: 6a-what-happens-if-Hosts-send-you-questions-that-aren-t-aligned-for-you- · 1 min
Based on the message and points, come up with 5 - 10 questions you’d love the host to ask you....
Go ahead and comment in the Student Discussion doc with any notes you'd like to share.
Then reply to 2 others' comments -- what other question(s) might be good for a host to ask them?
Key points from the video
- George's own habit as a host: he doesn't literally ask submitted questions verbatim, but uses the list to shape direction and picks favorites (e.g. liking questions 2, 3, 7, and 9 of a sent list), reframing them in his own words.
- Core message to guests: prepare questions and send them to your host in advance — it helps the host see the shape of the interview.
- Additional video, on what to do when a host sends questions that don't fit your message: be proactive — send your own ideal questions as soon as a host says yes, with a warm note that you hope they will excite the host's audience. States one of the course's core ideas outright: don't answer a host's questions literally, unless answering is, in your view, the best use of your time for the audience.
George's answers to students' questions (click to show)
A student shared: "- was there a lesson/video on how to not answer the hosts Q literally, Or some examples of this?"
George replied: yes thanks for asking, go to the following link for the lesson (as well as the one after that) --
the lesson "Reminder: It's less a conversation, more a presentation with Q&A by the Audience through the Host." in Interview Mastery
What's a good offer to mention in an interview?
Video · 5 min
Consider someone who doesn’t yet know you well... but could be a great client if they learned your message.
What would be an offer of yours that would be easy to understand for them, and might love to say Yes to?
Practice talking about your offer for under 2 minutes.
Ideas include:
- Your 1-1 service Your product/course
- Your email newsletter
- Your main social media to follow
- Your podcast
Go ahead and comment in the Student Discussion doc with any notes you'd like to share!
Then if you'd like, reply to 2 others' comments if you resonate with what they wrote and/or have any kind suggestion to offer about their offer 😊
Key points from the video
- Names a common guest failure mode: showing up with no prepared offer at all, then regretting afterward that they never told the audience about what they have to offer.
- Explicitly rejects one-size-fits-all offer advice (no universal always-pitch-your-discovery-call rule) — the right offer depends on your business model and how you like to build relationship with prospects.
- Coins the contrast "1st step offer" vs. "1st class offer" (airplane-seating metaphor) — sometimes a deep, high-commitment offer (e.g., a 1-year program) is right if the interview's depth and the host's energy support it.
- Shares his own default: mention specific blog posts/YouTube videos by name so (a) YouTube's algorithm starts recommending his other videos to that viewer, and (b) visitors land on pages carrying his Facebook/Instagram/LinkedIn ad pixels, enabling retargeting later — named explicitly as strategic, not incidental.
- Effect of "dropping hints" throughout rather than one big pitch: makes the interview feel generous and leaves listeners curious to explore more.
George's answers to students' questions (click to show)
A student shared: "Haha , that escalated quickly!: When I brainstormed what could be nice for me to offer, I just had the idea to offer free content through sharing my experiences and point of view at my love-topic. So I took Zoom and just recorded my 10 questions from the lesson I just did before, and build a page for it on my website: www.janhoorn.de/fragen I am very proud and wanted to show it to …"
George replied: wonderful!
Clarity vs Promoted Interviews
Video · 3 min
Clarity Interviews help you refine your message, so that your Promoted Interviews can have deeper impact and therefore wider reach (because the host and listeners will be more eager to share it!)
Go to the next lesson to learn how to do a Clarity Interview.
Promoted Interviews are the ones you usually see online... except they usually aren't done well (by neither host nor guest). You are invited to practice both Clarity and Promoted interviews in this course with fellow students!
To find fellow students to practice with:
Go to the Student Discussion doc and add your intro next to this lesson.
Then be sure to reach out to a few others who resonate with you, especially if they don't have any replies to their comments yet.
Key points from the video
- Defines Promoted Interview: the public kind — YouTube, podcast, social — actively promoted into the world.
- Names his own frustration with the genre: most promoted interviews online are NOT done well by either host or guest — he calls it a wasted opportunity, since it's already being promoted and could make deep impact.
- Defines Clarity Interview: practiced privately with course peers, purely to gain clarity on interview message and (when hosting) hosting style — explicitly not a promotional commitment for either side.
- Explicit recommendation: at least 3 Clarity Interviews before your next Promoted Interview, so everyone's time is best used.
- Notes he's likely not the originator of the "clarity interview" concept but is introducing/naming it fresh for most students here.
How to do a Clarity Interview
Video · 4 min
Key points from the video
- Rationale for practicing rather than reading from a script — clarity comes through practice: in the actual heat of an interview, words and energy surface that couldn't have been scripted; sometimes the message goes in a genuinely different (sometimes better, sometimes off-track) direction, and only practice reveals which.
- Reiterates the assignment to do at least 3 Clarity Interviews as a deliberate, numbered commitment — a 4th or 5th is optional upside, not required.
- Encourages referring a course-mate friend to the enrollment page if they seem like a fit.
The full lesson text (click to show)
Split the time in half. One of you serve as Host first, then let the other partner serve as Host in the second half.
Clarity Interviews can be 1 hour total (half hour per person) or longer, if both of you wish to.
Hosts:
Allow the Guest to start the recording so the guest can review it later as they wish to.
Set a timer for 25 minutes (so you know when to wrap up and turn the time over to the other person to practice hosting you.)
Before you ask your first question, invite you and the guest to take a minute to ground and visualize a [meaningful and uplifting] session together.
Ask your Clarity guest:
- “Consider someone who doesn’t yet know you well, but could be a great client if they learned your message. What would be an offer of yours that would be easy for them to understand, and might love to say Yes to?”
- “What is the overall message that you’d like to convey during this interview, that’s related to your Offer but doesn’t require the audience to buy, in order to benefit from the inspiration & meaning of the message?”
- “What questions would you love a host to ask you, if any?”
Then as a host, simply follow your curiosity. Ask questions along the lines of the main message the Guest wants to convey.
While the guest is sharing, you as the host might take quick notes in the Zoom chat (so the guest can see it) about what words/phrases/ideas/stories are particularly meaningful/impactful that the Guest said.
When the timer goes off:
- Ask the guest to share their offer, e.g. "As we wrap up this interview, tell the listeners about what you offer in your work, and how they can reach you?"
1. Guest should be prepared to share their offer / contact info in under 2 minutes.
- Then the Host should share feedback:
1. Overall, what aspects was the Guest strongest in?
2. Where might the Guest want to pay attention, in order to improve their presentation and message?
Then switch! The host becomes the guest.
At the end of the meeting, before you both leave, have each person save the Zoom chat.
Once you've done a Clarity Interview, come back and comment in the Student Discussion doc! Share with us how your experience went 🙏🏼
George's answers to students' questions (click to show)
A student shared: "I'm confused about the first questions, the ones under "Ask your Clarity guest." Are these warm-up questions, or questions in the actual interview?"
George replied: You're right -- these are warm-up questions to be asked in the first few minutes, to get the Host/Guest on the same page. However, if the Guest sends the Host the answers in advance, it can save time.
A student shared: "Just finished my first interview practice which I shared with . I feel very uplifted and inspired :-). I loved the openess to see how the situation would serve us best - we both liked to deviate from the questions, because more 'urgent' and interesting questions came up in the course of the talk. Still the important topics came up with the bonus of inspiring ideas for future …"
George replied: I'm so happy to see this report! Thank you for doing the exercise and sharing such an encouraging update 🙌😊
Make it easy to schedule with you...
Video · 4 min
Extra video: 11a-for-Clarity-interviews-don-t-worry-about-scheduling-calendar-for-now · 1 min
The old school way, of going back and forth via email as each person proposes available times, is not efficient, and often annoying for busy people (who might be some of your best guests and hosts!)
Instead, set up for yourself a cool like Calendly or AcuityScheduling so that your host or guest can easily book an interview with you.
If you'd like, share the link to your calendar booking page in the Student Discussion doc so other students can see how it looks.
Key points from the video
- Strong, direct personal opinion: he finds it "surprisingly unprofessional" when someone — especially a host with any existing audience — lacks a calendar booking link, and he wonders what they are doing.
- Anticipates the I-like-the-personal-touch objection and rebuts it: be personal in other ways (voicemails, personal messages) — scheduling itself shouldn't be the "personal" touch.
- His own setup at the time: Acuity Scheduling (Calendly works too) with separate appointment types for interviewing him vs. being interviewed, each with different availability windows; the booking tool syncs to his Google/Apple Calendar so availability auto-updates.
- Additional video: for Clarity Interviews specifically, don't set up booking tech yet — plain email back-and-forth is fine; save the calendar-tool setup for Promoted Interviews so it doesn't delay practicing.
Should you post your Clarity interviews?
Video · 1 min
If you do decide to publicly post one of your Clarity interviews or clips from it, feel free to comment in the Student Discussion doc with the link so we can cheer you on :)
Key points from the video
- Encourages recording if comfortable — explicitly reframes nervousness about being recorded as the point of the exercise (a safe space to "mess up" or let go).
- Practical case for recording even when unsure: you may regret not having it later, and a strong moment can become a shareable clip (1, 3, or 7 minutes).
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